Phil Donahue vs Bill O'Reilly

The debate between Phil Donahue and Bill O'Reilly was a hot one. Phil Donahue looked and sounded like he was trying too hard to debate on an issue about which he had too few facts. His comments were personally denigrating to O'Reilly (calling him "Billy" in a derogatory tone) to try to get the advantage over him, mistating facts about the war, dealing almost exclusively in the all too familiar far left rhetoric, or throwing out dramatic emotional arguments in support of the case for our troops leaving Iraq NOW. "We're going to pull out anyway, Billy," Donahue said, equating projections that the Iraqis will be better able to protect themselves and police themselves wih the support of fewer Americans at a future date to simply cutting and running. Point O'Reilly.

O'Reilly was pretty good, standing his ground, until he caved and said that he doesn't embrace the war after being pressed on the point by Donahue. Point Donahue. Mostly Donahue echoed emotional lefty cries that O'Reilly wants to see more men and boys--they're men when they want to get abortions for their girlfriends, or want to get birth control from their school without their parents' knowledge--but boys when they're "getting arms and legs blown off in war." He doesn't even see what a circus he and his seditious friends create in the face of a genuine terrorist crisis.

Loved it when Donahue did the unthinkable for a professional interviewer (not knowing the answer before asking the question) by lashing out at O'Reilly for not being able to feel sympathy and understanding for parents of our military personnel because he doesn't have anything to lose--he has no son who would be going into battle. O'Reilly just about took Donahue apart at that point because, unknown to Donahue, O'Reilly's nephew just enlisted and went (or is going) into the war zone. He accused Donahue of denigrating his nephew's courage and his patriotism--which Donahue certainly had--and said he would throw him off the set if he didn't retract his statement about the nephew. Donahue stumbled majorly, humma humma humma, and was at a loss for words. Two Points O'Reilly.

They both missed the point.

If we, the USA, don't stand up to these terrorists, there is no one else who will. No one else who is capable. We are not France or Holland. We can't hide away letting someone else be our gatekeeper of freedom. There are too many other countries depending on us to stop these despots before the despots, and their brand of Islamic radicalism, take over the passive "nice" world and have their evil way with the rest of us. These "doves" are too much in denial to realize that the day that happens (and the terrorists promise you in writing and by video time and time again that this is their goal), they (the lefty doves) too will no longer have the ability to criticize their government the way they have become used to doing. That they can't see this astounds me.

If they should criticize the government in the new wacky Iraqi world, they will most likely end up in mass graves, shot and tortured just like those who didn't or couldn't get on board with Saddam and his gang.

We need the biggest stick possible to set these radicals on their heels. We need to be considered the undisputed leader of the world and it has to be known that we have the most fire power out there of any country in the world. Anything less makes us a likely target to the radicals.

Your children and grandchildren, should they survive the torture and rape and other atrocities the radicals will hand out to Americans, Christians, and their sympathizers, they--your children and grandchildren--will live like the third world nation you've seen in Iraq every day on the news since this war began. This is exactly what your enemies have told you they will do when they conquer you and your decadent family--correction--you and your decadent weakling family. If you think you can conquer these barbarians, the ones who have never not been aggressors, by modeling niceness, or American "Golden Rule" values, you are delusional and, well, not quite sane.
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Photo sources:
Donahue-- http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/SHOWBIZ/TV/02/25/
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O'Reilly--http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2004/10/14/
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